[c350ia] new to us c350 owner

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I too had trouble reefing the jib with the deck cleat Catalina supplied with
my '04 350.  I replaced it with a Spinlock rope clutch that aligned exactly
with the screw holes that were there for the deck cleat.  That small change
made controlling both a reefed main and reefed headsail much easier.

Art Torino

Netti Verde, #161

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From: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net] On
Behalf Of William J Cullen
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:06 AM
To: Sam and Pat Crowder
Cc: 'C350 List'; c350ia-admin@catalina350.net; Don Jones; Peter Denoncourt
Subject: Re: [c350ia] new to us c350 owner

Peter is correct, this is how my 04 model is laid out too.  I made one
change, I ran the roller furling line through the swivel (cam) cleat that
the traveler line usually runs through, and moved the traveler line to the
small cleat.  In other words, I reversed these two line positions.  I did
this so that i could reef the jib under load.  I may someday get to the task
of replacing the small cleat with a cam cleat or stopper.  My advise is that
you do this if you think you might ever want to reef the jib. 

Bill Cullen
Sales Manager - South Region
Architectural Specialties
Armstrong World Industries
Office:  813-989-8000
Fax 813-980-3660
wjcullen@armstrong.com, www.armstrong.com 

Sam and Pat Crowder <sampatc@earthlink.net> 
Sent by: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net 

01/15/2008 07:52 AM 

To

Peter Denoncourt <pdenon@bellsouth.net> 

cc

Don Jones <djones@modbroadcast.com>, "'C350 List'" <c350ia@catalina350.net> 

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Re: [c350ia] new to us c350 owner

Peter Denoncourt wrote: 
Don, 

We have hull #72, built in 2003, with roller furling main.  The controls, as
supplied by the dealer, are as follows, from starboard to port: 

Main halyard: Sheet stopper on stbd side of mast, with cleat below (to hang
coiled halyard) 

Cabin top (stbd side): 
Cleat for roller jib furling line 
Swivel (cam) cleat for traveler control (stbd) 
Sheet stopper for boom vang 
Sheet stopper for main furling (out) 
Clam cleat for main sheet 
Cabin hatchway 
Sheet stopper for main furling (in) 
Sheet stopper for topping lift 
Sheet stopper for jib halyard #2 
Sheet stopper for jib halyard #1 
Swivel (cam) cleat for traveler control (port) 
Cabin top (port side) 

Good luck.  I'm sure you'll enjoy your C350.  We love ours, even after 5
years! 

Peter Denoncourt 
"Kite" #72 
Jax, FL 
----- Original Message ----- 
From:  <mailto:djones@modbroadcast.com> Don Jones 
To:  <mailto:c350ia@catalina350.net> 'C350 List' 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:32 
Subject: [c350ia] new to us c350 owner 

We are concluding the deal to purchase a used '03 C350 today.  The manual is
missing, and I've downloaded the one from the C350 web site. 

Aside from the basic routing of the mainsheet and vang, there appears to be
no running rigging layouts in that manual.  The boat will be coming to me on
a truck, so I'll have to re-rig everything.  It has the furling main. 

Does anyone have a layout diagram showing what control line goes to which
cabin-top sheet stopper, etc. 

I'm going to download the furler data hopefully from Schaefer and Charleston
Spar. 

Also, has anyone completely replaced the sails on their 350?   If you could
share the cost and your satisfaction with them it would be great.   (this
boat comes with no sails) 

Thanks, 
Don Jones, Oak Island, NC 

PS one last thing, did Catalina charge you for the upgraded refrigerator lid
insulation? 

Don,I have hull # 173with the roller furling main. My line set-up is
slightly different than Peter's. There are several options. From STBD:
Furling line cleat, Traveler cam cleat, main outhaul-with clutch, main in
haul-with clutch, main sheet-with clutch and a jam cleat with safety bail.
Companionway. Boom vang-with clutch, topping lift -with clutch, jib halyard
-with clutch, spare jib halyard -with clutch, traveler with cam cleat. I
have the main halyard on the stbd side of the mast through a clutch followed
by a cleat. hope this helps. 
Good lick
LONGHAWK #173 

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I too had trouble reefing the jib =
with the
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with a
Spinlock rope clutch that aligned exactly with the screw holes that were =
there
for the deck cleat.&nbsp; That small change made controlling both a =
reefed main
and reefed headsail much easier.<o:p></o:p>

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Peter is correct, this is how my 04 model is =
laid out
too. &nbsp;I made one change, I ran the roller furling line through the =
swivel
(cam) cleat that the traveler line usually runs through, and moved the =
traveler
line to the small cleat. &nbsp;In other words, I reversed these two line
positions. &nbsp;I did this so that i could reef the jib under load. =
&nbsp;I
may someday get to the task of replacing the small cleat with a cam =
cleat or
stopper. &nbsp;My advise is that you do this if you think you might ever =
want
to reef the jib. 
 
 
Bill
Cullen 
Sales Manager - South Region 
Architectural Specialties 
Armstrong World Industries 
Office: &nbsp;813-989-8000 
Fax 813-980-3660 
wjcullen@armstrong.com, www.armstrong.com 
 
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Peter Denoncourt wrote: 
Don, 
&nbsp; 
We
have hull #72, built in 2003, with roller furling main. &nbsp;The =
controls, as
supplied by the dealer, are as follows, from starboard to =
port: 
&nbsp; 
Main
halyard: Sheet stopper on stbd side of mast, with cleat below (to hang =
coiled
halyard) 
&nbsp; 
Cabin
top (stbd side): 
Cleat
for roller jib furling line 
Swivel
(cam) cleat for traveler control (stbd) 
Sheet
stopper for boom vang 
Sheet
stopper for main furling (out) 
Clam
cleat for main sheet 
Cabin
hatchway 
Sheet
stopper for main furling (in) 
Sheet
stopper for topping lift 
Sheet
stopper for jib halyard #2 
Sheet
stopper for jib halyard #1 
Swivel
(cam) cleat for traveler control (port) 
Cabin
top (port side) 
&nbsp; 
Good
luck. &nbsp;I'm sure you'll enjoy your C350. &nbsp;We love ours, even =
after 5
years! 
&nbsp; 
Peter
Denoncourt 
&quot;Kite&quot;
#72 
Jax,
FL 
-----
Original Message ----- 
From: <a
href=3D"mailto:djones@modbroadcast.com">Don =
Jones</a> 
To: <a
href=3D"mailto:c350ia@catalina350.net">'C350 =
List'</a> 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 =
7:32
 
Subject: [c350ia] new to us c350 =
owner
 
 
We are
concluding the deal to purchase a used &#8217;03 C350 today. &nbsp;The =
manual
is missing, and I&#8217;ve downloaded the one from the C350 web =
site.
 
&nbsp;
 
Aside
from the basic routing of the mainsheet and vang, there appears to be no
running rigging layouts in that manual. &nbsp;The boat will be coming to =
me on
a truck, so I&#8217;ll have to re-rig everything. &nbsp;It has the =
furling
main. 
&nbsp;
 
Does
anyone have a layout diagram showing what control line goes to which =
cabin-top
sheet stopper, etc. 
&nbsp;
 
I&#8217;m
going to download the furler data hopefully from Schaefer and Charleston =
Spar.
 
&nbsp;
 
Also,
has anyone completely replaced the sails on their 350? &nbsp; If you =
could
share the cost and your satisfaction with them it would be great. &nbsp; =
(this
boat comes with no sails) 
&nbsp;
 
Thanks,
 
Don
Jones, <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Oak =
Island</st1:City>, <st1:State
 w:st=3D"on">NC</st1:State></st1:place> 
&nbsp;
 
PS one
last thing, did Catalina charge you for the upgraded refrigerator lid
insulation? <o:p></o:p>

Don,I
have hull # 173with the roller furling main. My line set-up is slightly
different than Peter's. There are several options. From STBD: Furling =
line
cleat, Traveler cam cleat, main outhaul-with clutch, main in haul-with =
clutch,
main sheet-with clutch and a jam cleat with safety bail. 
Companionway. Boom vang-with clutch, topping lift -with clutch, jib =
halyard -with
clutch, spare jib halyard -with clutch, traveler with cam cleat. I have =
the
main halyard on the stbd side of the mast through a clutch followed by a =
cleat.
hope this helps. 
Good lick 
LONGHAWK #173 <o:p></o:p>

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