[c350ia] A question about in mast furling...
Art Torino
atorino@comcast.net
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Bill - thanks for the informative email. I was wondering why you brought
the main halyard back to the cockpit. Do you adjust it to help with sail
shape while underway? I keep mine fully tightened and its tied off on the
mast cleat that is supplied stock with the boat.
Art
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From: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net] On
Behalf Of WILLIAM VANWAGONER
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:14 AM
To: andy@sumberg.com; 'Al Szymanski'; c350ia@catalina350.net
Subject: Re: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...
I have been sailing my furling main equipped 350 on a weekly basis during
the summers, and typically once or twice each month in the winter since it
was new in 2004 (hull #229). and have never had a problem with jamming, or
with putting the sail on and off (thought my main halyard is run through a
block at the base of the mast back to a rope clutch starboard of the
companionway hatch).
I was also very apprehensive about the in-mast furling that came with my
boat, as I had been used to a full battened main with backstay adjustor etc.
After four years with this new arrangement, I can say while I miss the
ability to achieve optimum sail shape, the simplicity (single handed safety)
more than makes up for it. In addition, I don't think performance suffers
either as most of the power comes from the genoa. I had no problem leaving
a Catalina 36 equipped with a nice set of sails including a fully battened
main in my wake. The one thing I have learned is to have the topping lift
fully tightened (aft end of boom lifted up) when pulling out or rolling up
the sail as it goes much smoother. Given the ease of this system (I single
hand more often than I take crew), I would not go back to a traditional
main.
Bill Van Wagoner #229
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy <mailto:andy@sumberg.com> Sumberg
To: 'Al <mailto:aszy@mac.com> Szymanski' ; c350ia@catalina350.net
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...
All,
I've enjoyed all the discussion about how well the in-mast furling
system works. Call me old fashion, I like the shape (and performance) of
the regular main. To be honest, I've never sailed a 350 with in-mast
furling so it is hard to compare. I figure when I can no longer raise
the main by hand I'll install an electric winch. Reefing with the
regular main seems to be more work, but can still be done from the
cockpit. I do have to go forward to attach/detach the halyard and put
on/take off the sail cover. I don't have to go forward while under way.
Andy Sumberg
#231 "Portland"
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From: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net]
On Behalf Of Ilene Brandon
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:16 PM
To: 'Al Szymanski'; c350ia@catalina350.net
Subject: RE: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...
Hi Al,
We will never buy a boat without one. I was the resistant one. We also
have an electric coach top winch, makes life easy.
Fair winds,
Ron & Ilene Brandon
Cat 350 #139 Ilene
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On Behalf Of Al Szymanski
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:21 PM
To: c350ia@catalina350.net
Subject: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...
Well... time is drawing near. We have accepted an offer on the house,
thus will be purchasing our dream - a Catalina 350. There's one in
Seattle right now and with one exception is the boat for us. The
exception is the in mast furling system. My wife and I have shied
away from that arrangement for mostly simplicity reasons - thinking
that the system is "just one more thing to break". Heck.. my current
vessel has a hank on jib and I use a sextant ! So.. we'd be very
interested in everyone's observations on the system - I do recall a
recent post of one that jammed up and would not allow the sail to be
furled.
Standing by,
Al Szymanski
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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informative
email. I was wondering why you brought the main halyard back to =
the cockpit. Do
you adjust it to help with sail shape while underway? I keep mine =
fully
tightened and its tied off on the mast cleat that is supplied stock with =
the
boat.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net] =
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VANWAGONER<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 10, =
2008 12:14
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> andy@sumberg.com; 'Al
Szymanski'; c350ia@catalina350.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [c350ia] A =
question
about in mast furling...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I have =
been
sailing my furling main equipped 350 on a weekly basis during the =
summers,
and typically once or twice each month in the winter since it was new in =
2004
(hull #229). and have never had a problem with jamming, or with putting =
the sail
on and off (thought my main halyard is run through a block at =
the
base of the mast back to a rope clutch starboard of the =
companionway
hatch). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I was also =
very
apprehensive about the in-mast furling that came with my boat, as I had =
been
used to a full battened main with backstay adjustor etc. After =
four years
with this new arrangement, I can say while I miss the ability to achieve
optimum sail shape, the simplicity (single handed safety) more than =
makes
up for it. In addition, I don't think performance suffers either =
as most
of the power comes from the genoa. I had no problem leaving a
Catalina 36 equipped with a nice set of sails including a fully battened =
main
in my wake. The one thing I have learned is to have the =
topping lift
fully tightened (aft end of boom lifted up) when pulling out or =
rolling up
the sail as it goes much smoother. Given the ease of this system =
(I
single hand more often than I take crew), I would not go back to a =
traditional
main.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span
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Wagoner #229<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <a href=3D"mailto:andy@sumberg.com" =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <a href=3D"mailto:aszy@mac.com" =
title=3D"mailto:aszy@mac.com">'Al
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> RE: [c350ia] A question about in mast =
furling...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>All,<br>
I've enjoyed all the discussion about how well the in-mast furling<br>
system works. Call me old fashion, I like the shape (and performance) =
of<br>
the regular main. To be honest, I've never sailed a 350 with in-mast<br>
furling so it is hard to compare. I figure when I can no longer =
raise<br>
the main by hand I'll install an electric winch. Reefing with =
the<br>
regular main seems to be more work, but can still be done from the<br>
cockpit. I do have to go forward to attach/detach the halyard and =
put<br>
on/take off the sail cover. I don't have to go forward while under =
way.<br>
<br>
Andy Sumberg<br>
#231 "<st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City>"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net"
title=3D"mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net">c350ia-admin@catalina350.ne=
t</a>
[mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net]<br>
On Behalf Of Ilene Brandon<br>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:16 PM<br>
To: 'Al Szymanski'; <a href=3D"mailto:c350ia@catalina350.net"
title=3D"mailto:c350ia@catalina350.net">c350ia@catalina350.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Al,<br>
<br>
We will never buy a boat without one. I was the resistant =
one. We
also<br>
have an electric coach top winch, makes life easy.<br>
<br>
Fair winds,<br>
<br>
Ron & Ilene Brandon<br>
Cat 350 #139 Ilene<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: <a href=3D"mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net"
title=3D"mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net">c350ia-admin@catalina350.ne=
t</a>
[mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net]<br>
On Behalf Of Al Szymanski<br>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:21 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:c350ia@catalina350.net"
title=3D"mailto:c350ia@catalina350.net">c350ia@catalina350.net</a><br>
Subject: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...<br>
<br>
Well... time is drawing near. We have accepted an offer on the =
house, <br>
thus will be purchasing our dream - a Catalina 350. There's one in =
<br>
<st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Seattle</st1:place></st1:City> right
now and with one exception is the boat for us. The <br>
exception is the in mast furling system. My wife and I have shied =
<br>
away from that arrangement for mostly simplicity reasons - =
thinking <br>
that the system is "just one more thing to break". Heck.. my
current <br>
vessel has a hank on jib and I use a sextant ! So.. we'd be =
very <br>
interested in everyone's observations on the system - I do recall =
a <br>
recent post of one that jammed up and would not allow the sail to =
be <br>
furled.<br>
Standing by,<br>
<br>
Al Szymanski<br>
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