[c350ia] A question about in mast furling...

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At what hull number did a mast cleat become a stock item?  I had one installed on my mast, primarily for the spinnaker, but it does come in handy when I put my full-battened main back on in the spring.  I keep my main halyard on the starboard grab rail, just behind the vertical support.

The only thing that I found attractive about an in-mast furling main was the ability to have "infinite" reef points.  That was not enough to include it when I purchased.  I did get the electric winch to assist in raising the main, which comes in very hand when I am single-handing.

John O'Connell
"Second Wind" - Hull 84
Annapolis

(Still trying to figure out where the 80-micron fuel filter is on my engine.  I know where it is on the later boats, but unless it's inside some housing or other appurtenance, I can't find it.)

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From: "Art Torino" <atorino@comcast.net> 

Bill – thanks for the informative email.  I was wondering why you brought the main halyard back to the cockpit.  Do you adjust it to help with sail shape while underway?  I keep mine fully tightened and its tied off on the mast cleat that is supplied stock with the boat.

Art

From: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM VANWAGONER
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:14 AM
To: andy@sumberg.com; 'Al Szymanski'; c350ia@catalina350.net
Subject: Re: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...

I have been sailing my furling main equipped 350 on a weekly basis during the summers, and typically once or twice each month in the winter since it was new in 2004 (hull #229). and have never had a problem with jamming, or with putting the sail on and off (thought my main halyard is run through a block at the base of the mast back to a rope clutch starboard of the companionway hatch).  

I was also very apprehensive about the in-mast furling that came with my boat, as I had been used to a full battened main with backstay adjustor etc.  After four years with this new arrangement, I can say while I miss the ability to achieve optimum sail shape, the simplicity (single handed safety) more than makes up for it.  In addition, I don't think performance suffers either as most of the power comes from the genoa.  I had no problem leaving a Catalina 36 equipped with a nice set of sails including a fully battened main in my wake.  The one thing I have learned is to have the topping lift fully tightened (aft end of boom lifted up) when pulling out or rolling up the sail as it goes much smoother.  Given the ease of this system (I single hand more often than I take crew), I would not go back to a traditional main.

Bill Van Wagoner #229

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andy Sumberg 
To: 'Al Szymanski' ; c350ia@catalina350.net 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...

All,
I've enjoyed all the discussion about how well the in-mast furling
system works. Call me old fashion, I like the shape (and performance) of
the regular main. To be honest, I've never sailed a 350 with in-mast
furling so it is hard to compare. I figure when I can no longer raise
the main by hand I'll install an electric winch.  Reefing with the
regular main seems to be more work, but can still be done from the
cockpit. I do have to go forward to attach/detach the halyard and put
on/take off the sail cover. I don't have to go forward while under way.

Andy Sumberg
#231 "Portland"

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From: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net]
On Behalf Of Ilene Brandon
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:16 PM
To: 'Al Szymanski'; c350ia@catalina350.net
Subject: RE: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...

Hi Al,

We will never buy a boat without one.  I was the resistant one.  We also
have an electric coach top winch, makes life easy.

Fair winds,

Ron & Ilene Brandon
Cat 350 #139 Ilene

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From: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net]
On Behalf Of Al Szymanski
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:21 PM
To: c350ia@catalina350.net
Subject: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...

Well... time is drawing near. We have accepted an offer on the house,  
thus will be purchasing our dream - a Catalina 350. There's one in  
Seattle right now and with one exception is the boat for us. The  
exception is the in mast furling system. My wife and I have shied  
away from that arrangement for mostly simplicity reasons - thinking  
that the system is "just one more thing to break". Heck.. my current  
vessel has a hank on jib and I use a sextant !  So.. we'd be very  
interested in everyone's observations on the system - I do recall a  
recent post of one that jammed up and would not allow the sail to be  
furled.
Standing by,

Al Szymanski
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<DIV>The only thing that I found attractive about an in-mast furling main was the ability to have "infinite" reef points.&nbsp; That was not enough to include it when I purchased.&nbsp; I did get the electric winch to assist in raising the main, which comes in very hand when I am single-handing.</DIV>
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Bill – thanks for the informative email. &nbsp;I was wondering why you brought the main halyard back to the cockpit. &nbsp;Do you adjust it to help with sail shape while underway? &nbsp;I keep mine fully tightened and its tied off on the mast cleat that is supplied stock with the boat.<o:p></o:p>
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From: c350ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:c350ia-admin@catalina350.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM VANWAGONER Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:14 AM To: andy@sumberg.com; 'Al Szymanski'; c350ia@catalina350.net Subject: Re: [c350ia] A question about in mast furling...<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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I&nbsp;have been sailing my furling main equipped 350&nbsp;on a weekly basis during the summers, and typically once or twice each month in the winter since it was new in 2004 (hull #229). and have never had a problem with jamming, or with putting the sail on and off (thought my main halyard is run&nbsp;through a block&nbsp;at the base of the mast back to a rope clutch&nbsp;starboard of the companionway hatch).&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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I was also very apprehensive about the in-mast furling that came with my boat, as I had been used to a full battened main with backstay adjustor etc.&nbsp; After four years with this new arrangement, I can say while I miss the ability to achieve optimum sail shape,&nbsp;the simplicity (single handed safety) more than makes up for it.&nbsp; In addition, I don't think performance suffers either as most of the power comes from the genoa.&nbsp; I had no problem leaving&nbsp;a Catalina 36 equipped with a nice set of sails including a fully battened main in my wake.&nbsp;&nbsp;The one thing I have learned is to have the topping lift fully tightened (aft end&nbsp;of boom lifted up) when pulling out or rolling up the sail as it goes much smoother.&nbsp; Given the ease of this system (I single hand more often than I take crew), I would not go back to a traditiona!
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All, I've enjoyed all the discussion about how well the in-mast furling system works. Call me old fashion, I like the shape (and performance) of the regular main. To be honest, I've never sailed a 350 with in-mast furling so it is hard to compare. I figure when I can no longer raise the main by hand I'll install an electric winch.&nbsp; Reefing with the regular main seems to be more work, but can still be done from the cockpit. I do have to go forward to attach/detach the halyard and put on/take off the sail cover. I don't have to go forward while under way. Andy Sumberg #231 "<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City>" &nbsp; -----Original Message----- From: <A title!
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