[c350ia] How about a backstay adjuster?
Dave Granata
davegranata@yahoo.com
Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:04:43 -0800 (PST)
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-Mike, I don't have a backstay adjuster on my 350.
I guess the first question is do you have a furling main or a standard rig main? I'm not sure you could bend the furling mast.
Our rigs really aren't set up to be bent no matter what main you carry. A backstay adjuster will do two things. 1. flatten the main 2. tension the forestay (reducing the catenary curve of the luff). Both those things work to depower the sails. It's a heavy air control. I just don't see it benefiting the 350 when you can easily de-power by reefing. If it was a racing boat, yes...you would want that fine tuning control.
Actually, the boat thrives off heavy air....no need to de-power!
Dave G
226
Kent Island, MD
Mike Dwyer <mdwyer3@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
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I recall someone has done this with blocks on the split backstay and a long wire which come downs below the bimini, then a boom vang to do the adjustment under the bimini.
Any details out there including parts and lengths (I have the Catalina Bimini)?
How well does it work to improve the jib set while going upwind?
Thanks for the ideas!
Mike Dwyer
Sodus Bay on Lake Ontario
C350 #149
Mike Dwyer
Day 585-475-2698
Home 585-787-9686
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to all,
USAA steered us toward Progressive as well. I will revisit the Mainsheet article and call to see if there is a difference. I wonder could our variouws locations have something to do with whom USAA sends us too?
Interesting comments though.
Carl Beckmann
Palmetto Moon # 223
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<DIV>-Mike, I don't have a backstay adjuster on my 350.</DIV> <DIV>I guess the first question is do you have a furling main or a standard rig main? I'm not sure you could bend the furling mast.</DIV> <DIV>Our rigs really aren't set up to be bent no matter what main you carry. A backstay adjuster will do two things. 1. flatten the main 2. tension the forestay (reducing the catenary curve of the luff). Both those things work to depower the sails. It's a heavy air control. I just don't see it benefiting the 350 when you can easily de-power by reefing. If it was a racing boat, yes...you would want that fine tuning control. </DIV> <DIV>Actually, the boat thrives off heavy air....no need to de-power!</DIV> <DIV>Dave G</DIV> <DIV>226</DIV> <DIV>Kent Island, MD<BR><BR><B><I>Mike Dwyer <mdwyer3@rochester.rr.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I recall someone has done this with blocks on the split backstay and a long wire which come downs below the bimini, then a boom vang to do the adjustment under the bimini.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any details out there including parts and lengths (I have the Catalina Bimini)?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How well does it work to improve the jib set while going upwind?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for the ideas!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike Dwyer</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sodus</SPAN></FONT></st1:PlaceName><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType> on <st1:place
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</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">c350</st1:PersonName>ia-admin@catalina350.net [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">c350</st1:PersonName>ia-admin@catalina350.net] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>PalmettoMoon350@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:34 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> kse@san.rr.com; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">c350</st1:PersonName>ia@catalina350.net<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">c350</st1:PersonName>ia] Insurance</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">to all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">USAA steered us toward Progressive as well. I will revisit the Mainsheet article and call to see if there is a difference. I wonder could our variouws locations have something to do with whom USAA sends us too?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Interesting comments though.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV
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